Clear obesity gene link 'found'

Mark Bennett · 04-13-2007, 01:59 AM

Came across this on the BBC news website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6547891.stm

Any comments?

Josh Whiting · 04-13-2007, 02:54 AM

"Those carrying two copies of the variant had a 70% increased risk of being obese, and were on average 3kg (6.6lb) heavier than a similar person with no copies."

I was watching a big fat woman on telly this morning saying how she had tried everything and it was her genetics fault. I just wanted to shout at her "how do you explain the other 47kg!"

Scott Kustes · 04-13-2007, 05:13 AM

I'm so tired of hearing genetics, genetics, genetics. Genetics seems to be responsible for everything from obesity to bad breath (no really, it's not cause I don't brush my teeth). I will accept that genes can make one susceptible to something. Activating those genes is still the fault of the individual. Genes aren't a roadmap to life. You aren't born with a perfect line drawn from birth to death detailing everything that you'll encounter. It's more like looking at a map with "Birth" and "Death" and you have 7000 different ways to get there based on how you live. Some things you do put you on the bullet train to Death. Others take you on a rolling back country road that twists and turns, meandering through life slowly and healthfully.

You choose your path. Genes determine what happens to you after you've chosen your path. But it's so easy to blame genes...they can't be seen, so how can they be overcome? I'm waiting for people to start suing their parents for giving them bad genes.

Disclaimer: some genetic issues can't be avoided (i.e., birth defects). As hard as I try, I will never be 6 feet tall, nor will I ever be able to get a tan.

Mike ODonnell · 04-13-2007, 05:17 AM

the only "link" I see as the problems are the ones between all the sausages overweight people are shoving down their throat with their mound of pancakes and sugar.....

Genetics is just a crutch and that is where modern medicine fails us....it takes the power of controling our own health away from us and gets us all depressed and hooked on drugs as the only solution....

Mark Bennett · 04-13-2007, 05:27 AM

I hear what you all are saying. It's interesting to hear the "scientists" say this work "could improve understanding of obesity and eventually help prevent it, as well as an illness it is linked to".

What is there to understand? Eat the right foods in the right quantities and take regular exercise and you prevent obesity, regardless of gene's

Mark

Mike ODonnell · 04-13-2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Bennett

What is there to understand? Eat the right foods in the right quantities and take regular exercise and you prevent obesity, regardless of gene's

There's no profit in that....so it can't work....

Heather Lawrence · 05-22-2007, 06:39 AM

Two Cents From Heather

Tradition says an angel promised Abraham that he would live a long life if he ate the biblical version of yogurt. He lived to be 175 years old!

Today, in parts of Turkey, Armenia and some of the more remote regions of the Caucasus Mountains, there is an unusually high number of very old people. Men and women often live well beyond 100 years while maintaining healthy, active lifestyles.

The reason is they eat plenty of yogurt. The longevity theory has never been tested on humans.

But when scientists with the US Department of Agriculture were researching the effects of yogurt on salmonella infections in mice, they discovered one astonishing side effect: the mice that were fed yogurt did more than beat the infection – they lived much longer than those that were not given yogurt.

Like Yogurt, there are 16 more foods which makes you healthy.

Heather

Robb Wolf · 05-22-2007, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Heather Lawrence

Two Cents From Heather

Tradition says an angel promised Abraham that he would live a long life if he ate the biblical version of yogurt. He lived to be 175 years old!

Today, in parts of Turkey, Armenia and some of the more remote regions of the Caucasus Mountains, there is an unusually high number of very old people. Men and women often live well beyond 100 years while maintaining healthy, active lifestyles.

The reason is they eat plenty of yogurt. The longevity theory has never been tested on humans.

But when scientists with the US Department of Agriculture were researching the effects of yogurt on salmonella infections in mice, they discovered one astonishing side effect: the mice that were fed yogurt did more than beat the infection – they lived much longer than those that were not given yogurt.

Like Yogurt, there are 16 more foods which makes you healthy.

Heather

Wholly cliff-hanger batman! C'mon Heather! What are the other foods!

Mike ODonnell · 05-22-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Robb Wolf

Wholly cliff-hanger batman! C'mon Heather! What are the other foods!

If Guinness isn't on the list then I call the whole thing flawed.....

Scott Kustes · 05-22-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robb Wolf

Wholly cliff-hanger batman! C'mon Heather! What are the other foods!

Tofu, Boca Burgers, Cocoa Puffs, pita bread, Pop Tarts (strawberry only), chocolate cake, Bud Light, Lay's Sour Cream n Onion chips, chili cheese fries, nachos (only if they have guacamole though), Krispy Kreme donuts, deep fried Snickers, Ramen noodles, McDonald's Big Mac, meatball sandwiches, and anything from Cold Stone Creamery.

Ok, so Google turned up this document with the text Heather posted: http://www.ladyjr.com/Books/17-Bible...-That-Heal.pdf Most of them would qualify as what most of us consider healthful.