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Old 09-07-2007, 06:24 AM   #21
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Never did like the whole Beer suppressed T levels thing.....totally goes against the Irish Longevity idea....all in moderation I guess.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:55 AM   #22
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I think for the most, lifestyle changes and dabbling in non-scheduled anti-aromatases might be the first thing to try.

The stuff like tribulus, etc, always makes me hornier than normal, but I don't know if that cooresponds with a higher T level or not.
What anti-aromatases do you think are even worth the time/money? I used to be very into reading up on AS's and the such but have been out of it for quite a few years. Are you talking about clomid and all the -dexes? Biotest is saying reservatol is a great anti-estrogen supplement. (I haven't heard much about reservatol other than it is in red wine).

Tried one tribulus product years ago, didn't think it did much but then again I was only 25 at the time. I don't even remember the brand though.

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Just reminds me of Ori's latest marketing spin.....all anti-estrogenic. Which I believe he said cut out all plastics (which is a good idea) esp drinking water containers and stay away from pork and bacon.
I've actually moved to glass containers for when I heat up food now after reading a Poliquin thing about plastics a few months ago, I found a stainless steel coffee cup for work, I still love my Nalgene bottles when I'm on the go and at work and haven't broken that habit yet.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:42 PM   #23
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I don't know. I haven't kept up either, at this point.

I drink coffee out of ceramic most of the time, but I'd like to pick up a stainless steel cup that was as big as my favorite plastic mug.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:57 PM   #24
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I'm a big fan of these bottles despite the hokey name.

http://www.kleankanteen.com/

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