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Old 09-11-2007, 08:46 AM   #11
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Right Aimee, that's what I meant by putting "professional" in quotes. I wish people could be real pro's and make money lifting in the USA. I'd pay to see him lift!
And the same on the international lifters:it's the word I hear again and again, that the top international lifters all basically do cycles.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:05 AM   #12
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The opinion out here is along the lines of what Aimee has said. Basically that if weightlifting was a level playing field in terms of testing then things would be much closer between countries like the US and Australia and some other countries where drug testing is less rigorous.

We get drug testers in our gym all the time and they even test some of our up and coming lifters who haven't represented overseas.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:49 PM   #13
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Warning, devils advocate:

I don't doubt that other countries have more relaxed drug testing standards, but it is also possible that only the best genetically gifted athletes from other countries are weightlifting in the olympics and rest have been weeded out at an earlier age. I am sure there are many many athletes in the USA, who if they started training at age 7 and only lifted and did not work (like Casey)that at age 24, could lift weight comparable to other countries--regardless of the USA's strict drug testing. Let's not just say other countries cheat and that is why they are better, but let's think about the possibility that our best genetically gifted athlete's don't participate in weightlifting.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:10 PM   #14
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You must also take in account popularity of the sport.

Here barely anyone knowns what weightlifting even is ( excercising on machines right?) while in the world it's a huge sport with a humongous pool of athletes starting early.

I bet for every 1 weightlifter in USA, China has 100. That makes a big difference.
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:39 PM   #15
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Definitely. Most of the more gifted athletes here in the USA go into sports like football, basketball and stuff like that.

Anyway, snatching 182 is amazing.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:47 AM   #16
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Def not popular in the U.S. I had no clue what a snatch was and I only thought I knew what a clean & jerk was before I started lifting. Now, when I tell people that I do O-lifting, the majority give me a blank stare and then immediately ask me a powerlifting related question. I can't blame them as O-lifting is not exactly mainstream any more.
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