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Old 09-29-2009, 05:07 PM   #21
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woof. tell me Siders is hitting those monster volumes with lower percentages weight, which may be huge for the rest of us but easy for him?
You hit the nail on the head Dave. The dude ain't form this planet. Watched him do 545 for 5 sets 5 close grip bench one day. It looked so easy that he didn't even strain. I'm surprised that he only got 640 or 650 at that Raw bench meet last year in New England.

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Old 09-30-2009, 07:49 AM   #22
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You hit the nail on the head Dave. The dude ain't form this planet. Watched him do 545 for 5 sets 5 close grip bench one day. It looked so easy that he didn't even strain. I'm surprised that he only got 640 or 650 at that Raw bench meet last year in New England.

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What the...?

If I wasn't hearing it from you, there's no way in hell I'd believe it.
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Old 09-30-2009, 08:42 AM   #23
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What the...?

If I wasn't hearing it from you, there's no way in hell I'd believe it.
Siders and Gillingham may be the two of the all around strongest drug tested strength athletes in human history.

but...there's a lesson in there for mortals. about how you can get hella strong using a mix of rep work, volume work , max effort work and most important. how you can get really strong using submaximal weights.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:37 AM   #24
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Siders and Gillingham may be the two of the all around strongest drug tested strength athletes in human history.

but...there's a lesson in there for mortals. about how you can get hella strong using a mix of rep work, volume work , max effort work and most important. how you can get really strong using submaximal weights.

Dave,
Again, you hit the nail on the head. Brad and Brian are two beasts of the same feather. Brad is what? 42 or 43 and he's deadlifting 860something - more than he did when he was in his 30s and wayyyy more than he did in his 20s. But their training is just as you put it - thought out.

Brian started high volume, high frequency training right off the bat. He's a genetic freak because, from memory, he benched 500 when he was 16. He also never went for anything close to his max in training. He only went there the last two weeks before a meet and at the meet. But everything was waved and percentaged out to a point where he slowly and continually improved.

To watch him train is awe inspiring. Just what he moves makes you shake your head.

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Old 10-05-2009, 06:14 AM   #25
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Volume, Volume, Volume. (Smart volume, actually).
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Old 06-10-2010, 03:34 PM   #26
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Front squats really helped me break through some plateaus. '
Close grip bench and rack lockouts have helped me on overhead events.
Obviously Deadlifts and Overhead pressing have great carryover.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:32 AM   #27
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I am not experienced in the specifics here nor super strong, but felt like sharing this
Derek Poundstone interview, a few years old, thought it had an slightly different take. It was a lot of "get strong in gym, then learn implements"
http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/...ead.php?t=8459

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What is your current training split like?

Monday is shoulders, traps and abs, Tuesday is arms and cardio, Wednesday is usually off, Thursday is lower body (squats and deadlift), Friday is chest and back every other week and Saturday is Event training with CT Strength.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:45 AM   #28
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there was a good thread over at PB where Nick McKinless piped in and said, if you want to be a LW Strongman, get a 1500 raw total in PL and then start playing with implements. I think this is very very true.

once you're in contest prep, the barbell need to be secondary but the more time i spend getting injured by pushing the implement work, the more i think barbell and log only until 8-12 weeks out.
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Old 07-27-2010, 06:42 PM   #29
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I love it when threads span internet-ages.

My raw total would be around 1200 if I had to guess. 1500 is much more like a lifetime goal.

This thread prompted me to get assistance from an experienced SM guy, and he's been doing my programming for around 9 months. From my last contest, it apparently paid off. Got 2nd out of a decently competitive field. I'm a poor presser, but I tied 2nd in the 200's on the press event, and even outdid a few 231s.

My training for the press has been frequent and volume oriented. I'd frequently hit a big overhead lift (once or twice a week) up to a heavy set, followed by several sets at 80-90% of that daily max, followed by assistance (bench, floor press, incline DB, etc...)

Pulling was infrequent, but usually reverse band, switching between pulling from a deficit and the floor. Usually worked up to a heavy single, or several singles at a heavy weight. A couple times a month here. Did a few heavy farmers deadlifts also.

Squatting was primarily off a box, with chains. The accommodating resistance was waved some over time.

A few oly complexes, and of course, event work. Medleys, and more keg relays than I care to remember.
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