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Old 12-05-2009, 12:47 PM   #1
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On these supplements and their usefulness to an athlete and if they are really needed...
  • B-100
  • Cayenne
  • Ginkgo
  • Alpha Lipoic Acid
  • Acetyl L-Carnitine

I don't take a lot of stuff, but I am looking to keep my supplementation to the bare minimum to save money and cut back on usage.

I'm thinking my staples would be:
  • Fish Oil (12 g per day, Costco brand... helps with inflammation and lipid profile)
  • High Quality Multi (if anyone has a great suggestion that would encompass a good amount of B vitamins as well it would be great, I take a whole food vitamin but I want to hear if you guys have a great one that is low cost and good quality)
  • B-12
  • ZMA
  • Vitamin D (5000 iu a day)
  • Calcium

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Old 12-05-2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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and if you have any suggestions as to what you guys recommend, it would be appreciated as well... I'm looking to simplify and add to my health without overdoing it.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:58 PM   #3
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I was checking out NSI's line of multis as well, they seem to be pretty decent for a good cost..
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:22 PM   #4
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Everything in your staples is good.

Everything else you asked about is generally useless.

The only things you really need beyond that are whey and/or creatine if you're looking for better performance.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:47 PM   #5
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can you explain why you think that the asked about products would be useless? Isn't ALA and ALC two very beneficial supplements as far as fat metabolism and anti-oxidants go?

I'm looking for answers beyond google, because I do search and read, I want to hear people's opinions who train like I do.

Keep in mind I don't eat nearly as many veggies as I should so I tend to take the antioxidants to try to "make it somewhat ok"

isn't cayenne great for circulation as well?
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:51 AM   #6
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Cayenne is a food. Put it on vegetables.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:31 AM   #7
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Keep in mind I don't eat nearly as many veggies as I should so I tend to take the antioxidants to try to "make it somewhat ok"
Maybe this is more important than the pills.
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:39 AM   #8
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If you eat meat like most people on here, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't need the B12. Unless you have absorption issues, in that case fix 'em.
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You can if you want. Well, the studies have been kind of like Vitamin D where there's some benefit whereas if you piece together the information with D you can find out it's very critical. The rest aren't, so it's up to you if you wanna shell out the bucks for a potentially small if any benefit.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:28 AM   #10
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You should definately work on eating more veggies, or perhaps berries if not to get most of of your antioxidants. Food is most important, but it was a supplement question....

Supp's really depend on how much $$ your prepared to part with and what your goals are.

•B-100 Get any extra B's from a multi
•Cayenne Eat as food as Rob said.
•Ginkgo maybe

The below 2 have some pretty compelling human evidence if you ask me, but are pricey.
•Alpha Lipoic Acid Make sure you get the R+ form or dont bother.
•Acetyl L-Carnitine


The staple all look sensible before getting into exotics like ala, alc, except B12(get from meat or multi), and why so much fish oil? 3-5g range is usually ok or take even less and top up with salmon/sardines.
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