Max Fat Loss & Muscle = Workout and eat PM?

[Greg Davis]

I'm sure its better than zone but don't really agree with pigging out after 7pm being a good idea.

I don't know your schedule but for me I usually wake up at 6-6.30am and go to sleep around 10-11pm so for me to eat after 7pm just doesn't work for me anymore.. I find eating late gives you a food 'hangover' the next day. Whereas if I give myself a change to feel an empty stomach before bed I am money the next day.

Obviously depends on your goals but I think Steve's 12-6 idea is more badass and would give even better results.

Personally I need a bit more time to get meals in due to my job being mostly in an office so I don't have much flexibility. Right now I'm trying:
-having something really light before work (ie. either a small piece of fruit or small bowl of soup) on an empty stomach
-then have 3 P+F+V meals throughout the day but before 6pm
-on top of that I often have a light serving of veggies when I get home but all my eating is done before 6pm.
-intermittently skip meals depending on stuff going on at work, plans after etc.
-if i need snack on the go (rarely) ill bring out some almonds/pecans
-after exercise possibly a shake (hemp protein, coconut milk, avacado,berries)

I've lost a little bit of weight but I'm lean as ever and climbing my highest rated routes ever (I've only been climbing < 2 years).

[Mike ODonnell]

Pigging out like a "paleo pig" I should say......I can't even eat that much...since it is all protein, fruits, veg and other carbs from sweet potatoes and the like.....not referring to ice cream and cookies...although that does sound good....also I meant to refer I was eating at 7pm...until I was full...so say 7:30pm I am done....and then let the glucose and insulin drop just in time for bed somewhere around 10-10:30pm. Nothing in between...except water. That usually leaves me hungry at 10pm....quick metabolism...

[Steve Liberati]

Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell

Actually this thread was more about why working out at night and nightime eating is more beneficial than the other way around.....and making sure I had all my scientific ducks in a row....just to piss off Steve.

Its cool Mike. The hidden truth is I envy your talent to ask a question and answer it yourself in your own thread Not many people can do that

"So be it"...lol. It's not my fault I can't write a sentence...Sylvia Learning Center wasn't around 5 million yrs ago when we invented FIRE so back off buddy!

And mind you its not easy learning Caveman ebonics! It took me the last 5 years un-schooling myself from 22 yrs of being warped by an education system that prides itself on complicating life as much as possible with theorems, supply n demand graphs, and other useless educational tools.
What about spear chucking? Still don't get why the wife gets mad when I tell her our son's first toy will be a spear Little does she know I'm dead serious about it hehe...

[Mike ODonnell]

Originally Posted by Steve Liberati

I envy your talent to ask a question and answer it yourself in your own thread

The voices in my head do that....we are getting along right now...but a while back we had a fight over a girl....one of them slept with her....

[Robb Wolf]

Originally Posted by Mike ODonnell

The voices in my head do that....we are getting along right now...but a while back we had a fight over a girl....one of them slept with her....

Dude...good luck hiding THAT from yourself.