Home   |   Contact   |   Help

Get Our Newsletter
Sign up for our free newsletter to get training tips and stay up to date on Catalyst Athletics, and get a FREE issue of the Performance Menu journal.

Go Back   Catalyst Athletics Forums > Training > Endurance

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-13-2010, 09:44 PM   #1
Randy Gurley
New Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11
Default Effects of cigarette smoking on threshold/heart rate?

Alright guys, I feel like an idiot for asking this but I would like opinions, I wouldn't post this on Lyle's forum due to the criticism I would probably get.
I smoked for 5 years, quit for 5 years, then started smoking again about 4 years ago. My cardio up until the last 2 months was long, slow distance, 5 to 6 mph, I could go 13-14 miles no problem during the winter at that speed. For the last two months, I've been getting serious about increasing speed and endurance. I got Daniels Running Formula, and began playing with threshold training, using my first 5K time.
From a few studies I've read, smoking causes a lower VO2 Max, which would in effect lower the intensity it would take for me to reach lactate threshold, correct? My last 5K, I ran a pathetically slow 24:00, my heart rate was 173 a mile into it, and for the last 1.25 miles, it was low 180's and finished at 185. I've never measured my MHR but at 29 years old, I imagine it's probably in the mid 190's, running at a 7:40 pace/mile, I was running at almost 95%MHR, is that normal? I was useless after I reached the finish line, there's no way I could have gone another 3 miles if it was a 10K.
I'm seriously planning on quitting smoking very, very soon. I know I've asked enough questions, but do you guys think I should drop the higher intensity work until I quit, or years after I quit? Do you think I can improve, or will I be stuck at a certain intensity? It's hot here in Mississippi now, and the heat is only increasing my heart rate even more, I just wonder if what I'm doing is even worth the effort. Thanks for any advice, as much as I can't stand Runner World forums, a few searches there turned up some people claiming they personally knew people who smoked and ran some crazy fast times, like smoking didn't affect their speed. Maybe I just need lots of improvement?
Randy Gurley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2010, 03:58 AM   #2
Darryl Shaw
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 706

There's no need to overthink this one, just quit smoking and get back to some serious training.
Darryl Shaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 12:31 PM   #3
John Utter
New Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 5

I agree. In the long run, giving up smoking is always worth it, not matter what you have to change to your routine, or what you might not be able to do anymore.
John Utter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 12:39 PM   #4
Garrett Smith
Senior Member
Garrett Smith's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,368

The way I've always seen it, is that one of your two pursuits is going to win--smoking or running. The two don't happily co-exist with each other for very long.

Hacking up a lung after high-intensity work would be a bad sign.
Garrett Smith NMD CSCS BS, aka "Dr. G"
RepairRecoverRestore.com - Blood, Saliva, and Stool Testing
My radio show - The Path to Strength and Health
Garrett Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2010, 02:17 PM   #5
Steven Low
Super Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,091

Your body can heal up damage to an extent.... after that you're permanently damaging yourself. The threshold is pretty low for smoking since its a pretty detrimental activity in the first place.

Just quit and go from there.
Posts NOT intended as professional medical, training or nutrition advice.
Site // Bodyweight Strength Training Article // Overcoming Gravity Bodyweight Book
Steven Low is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 01:27 AM   #6
Adrian Miles
New Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9

Seriously make quitting your priority. Smoking is just so very bad on so many levels. Worst decision I ever made was start smoking. Best one was quitting.
Adrian Miles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 01:07 PM   #7
Kevin Shaughnessy
Senior Member
Kevin Shaughnessy's Avatar
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 944

I smoked for 4 years and quit about 3 years ago. What worked very well for me was to cut back slowly over a period of a couple months down to 2, then 1, and finally zero. Barely had any physical cravings.
Kevin Shaughnessy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2010, 02:41 PM   #8
Kevin Perry
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,672

Originally Posted by Kevin Shaughnessy View Post
I smoked for 4 years and quit about 3 years ago. What worked very well for me was to cut back slowly over a period of a couple months down to 2, then 1, and finally zero. Barely had any physical cravings.
This is what i've been doing just really cutting back, staying busy keeps the cravings away too. Then again, I don't smoke as much as a lot of people do so cravings are not that bad for me.
Kevin Perry is offline   Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:46 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Subscribe to our Newsletter

Receive emails with training tips, news updates, events info, sale notifications and more.

Submit your question to be answered by Greg Everett in the Performance Menu or on the website

Submit Your Question

Catalyst Athletics is a USA Weightlifting team of competitive Olympic-style weightlifters with multiple national team medals.

Read More
Olympic Weightlifting Book
Catalyst Athletics
Contact Us
Products & Services
Weightlifting Team
Performance Menu
Magazine Home
Subscriber Login
About the Program
Workout Archives
Exercise Demos
Text Only
Instructional Content
Exercise Demos
Video Gallery
Free Articles
Free Recipes
Recommended Books & DVDs
Olympic Weightlifting Guide
Discussion Forum
Weight Conversion Calculator