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Old 11-27-2010, 11:52 AM   #11
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:05 PM   #12
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http://arthurjonesexercise.com/Athle...exibility1.PDF

The good stuff is past the section on flexibility.

Dan John had Glassman nailed....
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:27 PM   #13
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And the absurdity is the implication that @Fers are better than top flight marathoners or Tour de France athletes. With respect to what? I may prefer to perform certain kinds of activities, but see no need to sneer at athletes who prefer different kinds of activities.
And that's what it's turned into, a mentality that @F is superior to all other endeavors especially gasp specialization in a sport.
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Old 11-27-2010, 07:18 PM   #14
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And that's what it's turned into, a mentality that @F is superior to all other endeavors especially gasp specialization in a sport.
Them arguing Games winner is fitter than Bryan Clay in the comments: http://games2010.crossfit.com/blog/2...-holmberg,698/

Bryan Clay weighs 185, back squats 272kg (598), benches 161kg (354), power cleans 152kg (332), has a standing vertical jump of 44in, runs a 10.35 100m dash, 4:38mile............ and he doesn't do "metcons"
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Old 11-27-2010, 07:23 PM   #15
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Then supposedly they had the guy set a world record in a box jump... whats going to be their argument against Stefan Holm jumping? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVZ3ZcorTF0
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:03 PM   #16
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Bryan Clay is an amazing athlete. Probably the best at doing less than 5 minutes of work at a time in the world, while mostly running and throwing things.

Here at Crossfit we like to use broad time and modal domains and under that definition, Graham Holmberg is, actually
I don't think I need to say anything else, the mentality speaks for itself.
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:39 PM   #17
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Jared Fleming has a bigger box jump at the same height and he's an insect.

The CrossFit concept has merit but the stopwatch and bull that they pull out of their asses just ruins it all.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:48 AM   #18
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The good stuff is past the section on flexibility.

Dan John had Glassman nailed....
That is a GREAT article.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:30 PM   #19
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Arthur Jones was certainly a smart guy.

He was the Glassman of his time, in his coupling Nautilus to the training methods he developed as the cure for all, and the HIT jedis were the @F echo chamber, but unlike Glassman, he actually did the research, and applied what he learned. Some stuff from the article that Glassman would never say:

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This type of training would probably be of little or no value for a weight lifter, or a shot putter… but it is the best type of training by far for a football player, a basketball player, a wrestler, a soccer player, a swimmer or a person involved in any other activity requiring both strength and cardiovascular endurance.
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Old 11-30-2010, 09:10 AM   #20
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Spot on!
It blows my mind that these people keep saying theyre evidence based, keep trying to become the official regime of the military, and keep expanding their influence, yet there is not a single legitimate and objective case study performed on this stuff, nor against a control, or any traditional program. Not even a single HQ member as any accreditations or university degrees in any field: ex phys, ex science, kinies, sport sci, none. There "journal" is plagued with inaccurate and failing information. Its a pure con. Someone should do something about this.
That's the genius of it. Look how many affiliate owner bios start with "I was never athletic growing up/picked last for dodge ball/sucked at sports/etc." Now look at HQ. Not a single person running the thing with any credentials, competitive history, or any visual evidence that they even train at all. That is how you market to the masses because the masses are average and uncredentialed.

You don't make money by marketing to the elite. Instead, you market a new definition for elite...hell, a new definition for everything. Then you invent a competition and challenge everyone else in the world to prove you wrong. It doesn't matter to your followers that nobody else cares to prove you wrong; it only matters that nobody else shows up.

It's genius.

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Them arguing Games winner is fitter than Bryan Clay in the comments: http://games2010.crossfit.com/blog/2...-holmberg,698/

Bryan Clay weighs 185, back squats 272kg (598), benches 161kg (354), power cleans 152kg (332), has a standing vertical jump of 44in, runs a 10.35 100m dash, 4:38mile............ and he doesn't do "metcons"
The amount of stupidity in that string of comments is staggering. I can't believe I share a planet with some of those people.
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