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Old 04-12-2007, 09:14 AM   #11
Steve Shafley
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Who knows, really? I've found in most cases simple is better. Circuits with a logical flow work better too.

That Brutal Training site has a lot of stuff on it. I think I'll spend some time going through it, but, holy crap, that flash stuff is just kind of hard to work with on the other side.

Some of the "Joy and Fierceness" stuff on the squat and DL isn't all that good.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:55 AM   #12
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Default Brutal is Darfur..that is Exercise

In all honesty I jest. It looks fun enough. But....anything that carries on about the badassery and overall hoorah bullshit, I'm out. That's not badass, that's vanity.

The circuit looks interesting enough, a shade complex for my tastes. The wacko behind it has some real self esteem issues. Tongue in cheek of course, pip pip cheerio and all that.

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Josh, Dave,

Why is it that other, 'normal' people look at the above and have your reactions and I just think 'well the Bear could be tricky and I won't enjoy the pull ups but that doesn't look too bad'?

I note that there has been 105 views of this post so I guess the other 103 are in your camp too.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:30 AM   #13
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As I go through the website, I really just get the feeling they are trying too hard.
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:11 PM   #14
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I think that sometimes complex can be good, especially if your involved in anything that involves thinking when knackered or with heightened adrenalin.

I agree with Steve though if you just want to work hard simple is probably better.

The site is a bit odd.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:35 AM   #15
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The whole new age psychology quoting dead Japanese swordsmen eco warrior bullshit while shouting 'we train really hard' irritates me.

Most of them are volley ball players and golfers.

Get real.

But I like Andrew Read. And he actually goes against a lot of the philosophy of the site and the whole 'What is brutal?' nonsense. Some parkour kid was saying that he thought that it was vital to train outside rain or shine 12 months of the year because it improved him as a person and meant his training was 'real'. Read observed that hardship was going to war, why should training have to be so unpleasant. I think that is on the same lines as Dave's 'Darfur is brutal' comment which I agree with.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:19 AM   #16
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There's some good and some doof in every website.

The "new age" slant towards cancer care is really treading an iffy line. I would seriously love it if fasting and detox and bizarre cures cured cancer, but they don't.

I had to laugh at the loads of fitness ball stuff on there. Will Heffernan, an Australian S&C specialist who's living in Ireland and working the the Irish Institute of Sport, commented that his peers in Australia were nutso about the fitness ball, and he also commented that is was probably because they were cheap to ship there.
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