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Old 07-16-2011, 12:38 PM   #1751
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We're going to start seeing Thursday's rhabdos from the GHD situps on Sunday/Monday, and todays rhabdos from Barbara on Tuesday/Wednesday
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Old 07-16-2011, 12:46 PM   #1752
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:20 PM   #1753
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Steven how different is a legitimate gymnastics kipping pullup from a crossfit kipping pullup?
Most male gymnasts never kip pullups when training. I have never seen it taught by men's programs as a method to get pullups when doing their pullup training. Yes, some boys will swing to cheat. Sometimes this allowed with the boys who are weaker because they are weak.

However, I have seen hollow/arch kipping pullups more prevalent with girl's programs. I have never seen them work them connected though. Too sloppy. These are mainly used when a girl isn't strong enough to do them strict.

They may look something like this. However, I rarely have seen them chained as such because if a girl can chain them this fast, they are typically told to slow down or STOP KIPPING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xZ0R...eature=related

It is allowed by some coaches because they know certain girls are just too weak to do them otherwise. Common pullup assignments for competitive girls will be something like:

30 pullups or 10 in each grip or 3/5x10. This is generally assigned regardless the number of actual pullup a gymnast can do as a maximum whether or not they have been tested.

Some coaches will yell for form breaks, some won't. I can probably find the pullup assignments for UC Berkeley collegiate girls but seeing as they are not known as being any good that is moot really.
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:23 PM   #1754
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I'm not sure if SLAP tears are common with men's gymnastics, but shoulder problems are, especially rotator cuff tears or wear and tear. Steve can probably answer this better regarding numbers.

For women, most injuries are lower extremity and men tend to be shoulders and elbows. Both tend to suffer from their ankles and wrists wearing out. Very rarely do I hear of male gymnasts suffering from back problems but it's common with the girls. Same regarding hip and knees. Some females suffer from soreness from elbows but these tend to be weaker females who get weeded out anyways.
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Old 07-16-2011, 03:02 PM   #1755
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Great post, so when we here the argument that Crossfit's kipping pullups are gymnastic skills, they're really just bullshitting?
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Old 07-16-2011, 06:50 PM   #1757
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with regard to the rhabdo comments: apparently a little information goes too far. Just friggin train and shut up... Otherwise crossfitters have a resistance to rhabdo.
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:48 PM   #1758
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I'm not sure if SLAP tears are common with men's gymnastics, but shoulder problems are, especially rotator cuff tears or wear and tear. Steve can probably answer this better regarding numbers.

For women, most injuries are lower extremity and men tend to be shoulders and elbows. Both tend to suffer from their ankles and wrists wearing out. Very rarely do I hear of male gymnasts suffering from back problems but it's common with the girls. Same regarding hip and knees. Some females suffer from soreness from elbows but these tend to be weaker females who get weeded out anyways.

Are shoulder problems common in male gymnastics? I do not know anything about gymnastics, but I do recall Greg Glassman wrote or spoke, not sure, that shoulder injuries are completely absent in gymnastics because all gymnast (sp?) know who are have an "active" shoulder?

Is Greg Glassman wrong? Please do not laugh, I reject most CrossFit/What Greg Glassmans says, I just know nothing about male gymnastics.
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