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Old 04-21-2007, 08:28 PM   #1
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:33 AM   #2
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Oh come on,....must have been interesting? Raises questions:

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Old 04-22-2007, 10:13 AM   #3
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Well I will put the more succinct version back up: is it inherently dangerous lowering weights after a snatch or C & J. My current gym will not allow it, but as my weights increase, the eccentric force is staring to tweak muscles.
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Old 04-22-2007, 10:58 AM   #4
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The question is perfectly valid IMO, yes one can lower the weight without dropping it, safely. Anyone doing the Oly-lifts or derivates for reps does so. Not sure how to explain best, consider a snatch, the weight overhead, when you lower it time a slight kneebend/re-straightening/kneebend to lower the distance the weight has to be moved, you first go into you knees and lower the weight from there with your arms further while straightening your legs which allows you to rebend the knees again when the weight reaches it lowest point, to break the otherwise hard catch. Easier to do than to explain. The main point is it is safe as long as there is no 'slack' in some of the joints otherwise it can be a painfull experierence...
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:00 PM   #5
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snatching or CJing truly heavy weights is very dependent on speed, so the amount you can lift will eventually exceed the amount you can lower because you cannot reverse the movement. with lighter weights, you should be able to lower under control.
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Greg, is that an "Ass Kicking Potential" certification I see after your name?
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yes... and you can't imagine the exam you have to take for that one...
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I have started lowering the weight a lot more, even with weights up to 80% on jerks last week for doubles. I like doing this. I think ecentric work is ok, and it forces you to handle the weight with real control.
Plus, it somehow seems more artful. Dropping 40kg power snatches during warm ups just seems unnecessary.
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Greg, is that an "Ass Kicking Potential" certification I see after your name?
I by contrast, have gone with no credentialing...sort of like when Prince just became a symbol.
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