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Old 01-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #1
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Intersting discussion on BCAAs that isn't biased to promote selling specific products...(tnation anyone?).

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/article...CAA-roundtable

I still like the idea of some BCAA pre workout and maybe during for longer sustained activites (over 1 hour)....when I can afford to get some. Of course money is best spend on good whole protein sources first...this I would say is probably one of the few supplements I would consider spending any money on. It may only give you that extra 5% of results, but for some it may be the performance and recovery edge they need in serious competition. Again...if you have the extra money to spare.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:23 PM   #2
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A friend of mine asked what kind of supplements I was taking and I told him I have narrowed it down to fish oil from Dr. G and BCAA's.

I still have the occasional protein shake when I can't get a good meal in but they are not part of my plan anymore. I stopped taking creatine when I ran out a couple of months ago and haven't really noticed a difference.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:46 PM   #3
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I'm currently resuming some BCAA and creatine supplementation myself. Nothing crazy, 4g creatine and 6g BCAAs a day.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:01 AM   #4
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Out of curiosity, on what kind of schedule? Post workout, before bed...
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I'm playing with the IF concept a bit. Normally I don't eat in the AM, having only a late lunch and dinner on the weekdays (now throwing in a 24-hour fast one day a week). I think the crux of IF benefits lies in the intermittent *calorie* intake, not necessarily on a lack of micronutrient supplementation during the fasting time.

I'm taking the creatine and BCAAs on a very empty stomach in the morning in my herbal tea, with various other minerals, some lipoic acid, and the asparagus extract (5g powder extracted from 1/2 pound of organic asparagus), after my coffee. So, tons of nutrition with only a *tiny* handful of calories. The exact opposite of what most SAD people are getting.

I understand IF purists may not like it, but it's what I'm testing out. Someone posted a study link a while back about rats and adding leucine+phenylalanine to their IF protocol and noting improved body comp and mass gain. So I'm trying something "similar" with creatine and BCAAs.

All of my other supplements (including fish oil and CLO) are taken with my big dinner.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:30 PM   #6
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Dr. G,

What fish oil do you recommend?
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Dave,
I use a physician-only brand of fish oil, Eicosamax by ProThera.

Super high quality and potency. PM me or call my office if you want to get some.
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:30 PM   #8
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What fish oil do you recommend?
Its great I have been using it for months now. Liquid and all and no fishy taste or fish burbs either!!
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:25 PM   #9
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I take about 10g of BCAA's both before and after my training sessions.

I find that since I've started doing it, I feel better longer. If that makes any sense?

I also use Bodyquick pre workout as well.

And as soon as I take the 10g of BCAA's pwo, I hammer back a shake with app 30 grams of protein and 30 grams of simple carbs. That shake also includes about 5 to 10 gram of glutamine and a little bit of creatine.

Then 30 minutes later, I take another shake with about 40gram of protein and 10 more grams of glutamine. No carbs.

Then about an hour later, I have a whole meal heavy on the protein (about 25 to 30 grams).

I've found this regimen has really helped me a lot over the past two years. Doing this and making some overall life changes (size of meals mainly) has resulted in me getting leaner (losing 20 pounds) without losing much muscle mass at all.

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Arden that is some serious PWO regimentation.

BTW welcome to the PM forums.
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