Nieder Presses

James Evans · 02-27-2008, 06:28 AM

Any of you ever do these?

Remember seeing them years ago for boxing circuits and I've got some old Ross Enamait material where he describes them. I was flicking through a book I have on complex training (ie bench followed by clap push ups not Javorek complexes) and the Nieder press was presented as one of the plyo exercises.

Also, one of the great exercises named after it's 'inventor':

Mr Nieder
Mr Zercher
Mr Saxon
Mr Hack

(only being partly serious with this last bit but I read someone commenting on the identity of Zercher today)

Derek Simonds · 02-27-2008, 06:56 AM

I did them in a complex just goofing around last week. They were harder than I thought they would be. I was really punching them out and pulling them back hard. I did

Bent Over Row + Good Morning + Neider Press + Push Press + Back Squat

I did it with really light weight 65 LB's and it was a burner.

James Evans · 02-27-2008, 08:05 AM

They're tough aren't they? I do them a lot with medballs (forgetting that they are actually Nieders), 20k to 30k max is all I can manage with a barbell.

Do you use a split stance? It stabilises you a bit more. Seen them done in a partial squat to.

I'll try your complex as a warm up later.

Allen Yeh · 02-27-2008, 08:22 AM

video?

Garrett Smith · 02-27-2008, 08:27 AM

I've done a version of them with DBs, doing "sprawl ball" in the CA WOD. I had to do them inside and between the drywall and my poor selection of medicine balls, I subbed in the DBs for the med ball throw against the wall (Nieder press portion).

Rough on the shoulder muscles, and I found myself really yanking them back in strongly, to minimize the time in arm extension!

James Evans · 02-27-2008, 10:00 AM

Allen, I can't find one (after a very cursory search).

Imagine a standing bench press. Slightly split stance for a solid base. Drive the weight - barbell, db or medball away from your chest, sometimes suggested in a slight upward direction. Your shoulders really struggle to stabilize the weight.

Obvioulsy popular with boxers because of the punching motion but Nieder was apparently a shotputter. I'd be interested to know what Dan John thinks of the exercise.

James Evans · 02-27-2008, 12:37 PM

as I consign another incorrect title to the vaults of this forum along with "Alan's 5 Easy Moles".

NEIDER Press

http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/spor...iderpress.html

There was a vid up on Ross' boxing site but it's now gone. I just found an illustration that was nothing more than just an incline bench press!

I trawled through some other shit including this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQggVKcFh_U

Allen Yeh · 02-27-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Evans

as I consign another incorrect title to the vaults of this forum along with "Alan's 5 Easy Moles".

NEIDER Press

http://www.gocolgateraiders.com/spor...iderpress.html

There was a vid up on Ross' boxing site but it's now gone. I just found an illustration that was nothing more than just an incline bench press!

I trawled through some other shit including this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQggVKcFh_U

Thanks.

Ben Moskowitz · 02-28-2008, 08:27 PM

here's my interpretation (WFS). I probably launch the bar too upwards.

Allen Yeh · 02-29-2008, 02:57 AM

Did you mean this Ross video?

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/hardcore.html

It's the 2nd exercise shown right?