Seriously, modern civilization is pretty evil

[Fenthis Glusos]

Everywhere you go, sugar is pushed on you. I was just grocery shopping and picked up a jar of herring in wine sauce and then looked at the ingredients and lo and behold -- SUGAR! what the fuck, man. So, then I took a look at some of the other brands and finally found one without the sugar - but what a process this is.

Then I looked at how to make 'smoked fish' and notice sugar as an ingredient. Shit, does this mean that store-brought smoked fish contains sugar?

Sugar is everywhere, everyone pushes it on you...salt too, no wonder Americans are such obese peoples. Blame the fucking food industry.



I guess this is one way to control population sizes - from 6 billion back to 1.5 billion soon.

[Mark Gebhard]

Well, salt and sugar are good preservatives and have been used as such for a long time. Of course, that certainly doesn't mean they're healthy.

[Steven Low]

Originally Posted by Mark Gebhard

Well, salt and sugar are good preservatives and have been used as such for a long time. Of course, that certainly doesn't mean they're healthy.

Salt very much so better than sugar because of the insulin. Plus, if you don't want it salty just dilute it. Sugar you still get insulin spikage.

[Jay Cohen]

Originally Posted by Fenthis Glusos

Everywhere you go, sugar is pushed on you. I was just grocery shopping and picked up a jar of herring in wine sauce and then looked at the ingredients and lo and behold -- SUGAR! what the fuck, man. So, then I took a look at some of the other brands and finally found one without the sugar - but what a process this is.

Then I looked at how to make 'smoked fish' and notice sugar as an ingredient. Shit, does this mean that store-brought smoked fish contains sugar?

Sugar is everywhere, everyone pushes it on you...salt too, no wonder Americans are such obese peoples. Blame the fucking food industry.



I guess this is one way to control population sizes - from 6 billion back to 1.5 billion soon.

You just finding this out? If you buy it in a package, very good chance that it has more then one ingredient, so, buy the basic herring and prepare your own sauce.

Fish/Meat,Veggies, some nuts and seeds, little fruit, see any herring(in a can) in wine sauce in that list.

[Fenthis Glusos]

Originally Posted by Jay Cohen

You just finding this out? If you buy it in a package, very good chance that it has more then one ingredient, so, buy the basic herring and prepare your own sauce.

Fish/Meat,Veggies, some nuts and seeds, little fruit, see any herring(in a can) in wine sauce in that list.

dude, you eat hardly any vegetables and zero fruit, what is up with that? I just checked out your fitday...

I eat a couple of bananas and an orange a day, no harm done at all.

Besides, I'm broke...meat is expensive. I subsist mainly on spinach, sardines, fruit and a lot of nuts...barely anything else.

[Liam Dougherty Springer]

I just found some canned sardines in spring water no salt added and still w skin and bones at Trader Joes. Hard to find this product not at Whole foods or any conventional grocers. The only other place I found it was at a Italian grocer where I live in St. Louis. Right now I am in Oregan and the TJs was in Portland I wonder if it is carried at the TJs back home.

Anyway I was just relating for the search for "clean" preseved fish products thought I'd share the find.

[Jay Cohen]

Originally Posted by Fenthis Glusos

dude, you eat hardly any vegetables and zero fruit, what is up with that? I just checked out your fitday...

I eat a couple of bananas and an orange a day, no harm done at all.

Besides, I'm broke...meat is expensive. I subsist mainly on spinach, sardines, fruit and a lot of nuts...barely anything else.

Fenthis;

I buy Goya Sardines by the CASE, eat at least 4-6 times per week along with buying broccoli in 5 lb bags from Wal Mart, 20 lbs at a time. Fresh Greens include, Kale, Turnip and Collard along with cabbage. I have about 150 lbs of beef, lamb, pork and goat in freezer, eat every day along with eggs.

I eat more carbs on training days, very little carbs on off days.

You think meat is pricey, I feel the same about fruit and I'm not thrilled with the carb blast, so I would limit myself to berries, melons and some other items.

Sorry you're broke, I work two jobs.