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Daily Training 9-21-11

Collected training footage of Catalyst lifters. Audra power snatch, Steve power clean + clean, Mike front squat, Aimee power clean & power jerk, Steve split push press behind the neck.

13 Comments
Daniel 1 | 2012-01-27
Most of people in the videos look so ANGRY/disapointed after single lift compledted =D ! You all should be happy and proud what you lift, some of you lift pretty damn heavy weights! Allways inspireing to look the clips!


Cheers / Daniel Australia =)

Greg Everett 2 | 2012-01-27
Daniel -

With every lift, they're usually trying to do something specific technically - they may make the lift but fail to do in the way they were intending to. That's where the disappointment lies. It's great to make lifts, but you can always make them better.
Andrew Australia. 3 | 2012-01-27
Hi guys awesome video again, I really enjoy watching them and as a beginner lifter I learn a lot from them. I have a quick question about the guy doing the cleans, why does he dump the bar so quick at the top? Would love to understand this technique and is it for more advanced lifters like he clearly is. Thanks guys.
Greg Everett 4 | 2012-01-27
Andrew -

My question would be why hold it longer? He's done the hard part, he's not going to jerk, he doesn't need to work on his transition from the clean rack to jerk rack position, so there's really not much benefit to holding onto it any longer. With a snatch, it's arguably different - it's important to stand completely while still holding and controlling the bar, but in the clean, there's really little to no issue of balance and stability once you're standing up.
Andrew 5 | 2012-01-27
Makes sense, thanks for the reply.
Mike 6 | 2012-01-28
Hi guys, love this stuff! Helps with my technique....keep it up !
Canada
Ross 7 | 2012-01-28
Hi Greg,

I was wondering why you're lifters tend to do so much technique work and doubles and triples instead of going for maxes daily in the full lifts?

Cheers,
Ross
Cassie 8 | 2012-01-29
I don't know Greg personally but I've heard him talk enough on the podcast to know he'd probably say that "going for maxes daily" is a bad idea, especially if your technique is not where you want it to be. That's a good way to get injured. Besides, practice makes permanent. If you don't drill good technique over and over but instead burn yourself out trying to max with shotty technique, you are only doing yourself a disservice. You'd never be a quality lifter.
Greg Everett 9 | 2012-01-29
Ross-

First, doubles and triples are not necessarily technique work. Do a triple at 85% or so and see if technique is what you're thinking about. Second, these videos don't show every minute of every lifter's training. In fact it's probably a fairly poor representation. I don't like having to hold a camera. I'd rather just be watching them train. Third, there actually are periods of time when they do go max daily or close to it. Presently about 6 of them are squatting to max w volume back off sets daily, snatching and clean and jerking to max at least 3 days of the wk, and taking powers to max the other days if not the full lifts. However, we don't train like this all the time and shortly these guys will be back to a new cycle with a different approach.
Ross 10 | 2012-01-29
Cassie,

I agree that it would be horrendous idea to go to max daily with "shotty" technique, BUT most of these lifters have excellent technique. Going to max everyday with the full lifts and squats does lead to what people perceive as a "Burnout" or more accurately, a depression, but this is just a period of adaptation. Oly lifts are skill based, where as the powerlifts are not as sophisticated. A skill needs to be practiced everyday and these skills are utilized to get a max weight in competition. Oly lifting isn't all muscle, it's the "mental lifts" You have to train the mind everyday. This testament comes from the Bulgarian champions and American lifters who utilize it's principles.

Greg,

Thank you for the detailed response, I highly appreciate it and did not mean any insult, although I will say that performing a triple at 85% is very hard, it doesn't scare the shit out of someone like going for a max, which is psychologically demanding. Therefore I believe the mind is paramount to train, because the sport is about going to max. With that said, my question was simply inquisitive. My curiosity comes from reading and hearing you mention your admiration for Chinese lifters, which as the saying goes, "The Chinese have never met an exercise they didn't like." Are they an influence on the way you program your athletes?

Furthermore, the Chinese style is in great juxtaposition to the minimalist Bulgarians. How do you feel about the Bulgarian system? This is not a jabbing at you, as obviously, both have produced great Olympic champions, I am just wondering because from the videos it does seem that you like to use a variety of skill transfer exercises compared to coaches like Glenn Pendlay and John Broz.
Daniel 11 | 2012-01-30
Yes Greg, I undrstand.. welll i guess you all smile more then the camera shown anyway, and that all lifters are proud of what they do!

Keep the vidoes coming, I think we all appreciate them a LOT!!

I do !!!

Have a good day!
Greg Everett 12 | 2012-01-30
Ross -

Training the mind for max attempts is important, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing that's important, nor that it needs to be done daily. I like to joke with my lifters that weightlifting is 100% mental if you have 100% of the necessary strength. You can be bold and willing to pull under any weight - but that doesn't mean you're strong enough to lift big enough weights to get under for it to matter. Developing technical consistency at weights less than 100% carries over into the mental side of max attempt confidence by assuring the athlete that he/she knows how to get it done and that the movement is second nature; that all he/she has to do is commit and generate maximal power. I do believe that it's necessary to take maximal attempts in training, and for some lifters more frequently than others. But again, that doesn't mean that daily maxes are necessarily the most effective or only way to develop weightlifters.

I don't recall saying I have any particular affinity for the Chinese over anyone else, but what I do like about the Chinese is that from what I can see, they are like me in the sense that they will use anything  they believe works. I'm not dogmatic or wed to particular methods. If I find a lifter responds best to daily maxes, that's what I will have that lifter doing until I believe it's not working anymore. If I have a lifter who seems to do better with more reps, more supplemental work, etc, that's what they will do.

Regarding the Bulgarian system specifically, if you want to get down to it, what Pendlay and Broz do is not what Ivan Abadjiev did or does, so the issue is already confused. I respect both coaches and believe that each has a lot to offer lifting, but I don't believe that either has a fool-proof system (and I don't believe anyone does) or that either of their methods works 100% of the time for all lifters (this has been demonstrated) - no system does unless it's one that is flexible and adjusts to what works best for lifters individually.

So to keep it simple, I believe there is merit to the Bulgarian system and various interpretations of it; but not more so than more Soviet/Chinese/Polish/Cuban/etc systems. Like I said, I use what I think works, and that's different at different times for different lifters. A lot of what you see in the videos is the more interesting material, i.e. things other than just snatches and clean & jerks. As I said before, this isn't necessarily perfectly representative of the programs of the athletes overall, just a glance.
Ross 13 | 2012-01-31
Greg,

Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my questions. I've been a fan of your gym since I converted from crossfit 3 years ago and your website was my first introduction into the sport. As I've grown into it I am always wondering more and more about different methodologies and the history of weightlifting, specifically, reasons other than drugs and lack of athletes as to why the US is so bad at the international level.

Thanks once again and best of luck to you and your lifters.

Cheers,
Ross

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